newsjunkie
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Registered: 09/11/08
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Gov. Paterson wants the state Senate to vote on a gay marriage bill, even if there aren't enough votes to pass it. Paterson said Wednesday he doubted the measure would pass, but that it still merited a vote on the floor of the Senate. "We'll put a bill out and let the people decide one way or the other, which is actually the reform Albany really needs," Paterson said, referring to the gay marriage bill. The state Assembly has approved a gay marriage bill and Paterson promised to sign it if it's approved by the Senate. Senate Majority Leader Malcolm Smith, a Queens Democrat, supports the gay marriage bill but has not allowed a vote because he thinks it will be defeated.
Huh? Suddenly an informed vote matters? Yet on the budget, they didn't dare bring it up as long as that one Senator was in the hospital, unable to vote without a rule change....
Could it be that the popularity-challenged Gov. wants to appease gay rights groups... without really seeing this measure advance? A politician playing games.. or perhaps a truly decent guy with commitment to equal rights, but no real political savvy?
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FeatTheVoices
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Registered: 10/31/08
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With the lack of real representation in Albany, I feel that letting those elected to "represent" our views to vote on the matter would be improper. Rather, I support it being a general election matter for the individual to vote on.
There is a movement in this nation to change the law, by vote or by activist judicial action, the people should be allowed to make the decision. However, this action by the governor is little more than an outreach to gain support. Like most politicians, actions they take are motivated by future consideration of the voting base. Therefore, I believe that most of those representative will be voting only upon the consideration of the votes they may expect to garner vs. those they may lose by their vote.
Lastly, I'd like to add that it is sad that I should feel this way about those who have been elected to represent my views in this state and nation, but this is the sad state they have brought us to. No longer is our voice truly of importance, but the position of those who financially support the candidates and the numbers of those who are likely vote for a particular candidate in the next election seems to matter the most at any given moment.
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Chan
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Registered: 10/15/08
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Government needs to get out of the marriage business entirely. Marriage is that most intimate of human relationships and is strictly between the parties involved. Permission to marry is not the government's to give since marriage is one of those great many natural rights. It is not the government's place to be giving recognition, privileges, etc. to people based on their choice to shack up with each other and it sure as hell is not the government's place to be subsidizing marriage by charging unmarried people higher tax rates, etc.
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McLovin
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When is it ever a BAD time to discuss equal civil rights?
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